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		<title>By: Wat is het verschil tussen een column en een blog? &#124; Kiki&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://danzarrella.com/data-shows-that-self-reference-does-not-get-followers.html/comment-page-1#comment-266494</link>
		<dc:creator>Wat is het verschil tussen een column en een blog? &#124; Kiki&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] juist met interactie? Niet voor niets wees iemand me twee weken geleden op twitter op de volgende blog:  en daarachter aan las ik nog meer psycho-analyse van het [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] juist met interactie? Niet voor niets wees iemand me twee weken geleden op twitter op de volgende blog:  en daarachter aan las ik nog meer psycho-analyse van het [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Better you than me &#124; Want more Twitter followers? Stop talking about yourself &#124; Wylie Communications, Inc.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Better you than me &#124; Want more Twitter followers? Stop talking about yourself &#124; Wylie Communications, Inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 04:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] data on more than 60,000 Twitter users, he looked at self-reference on Twitter. He found that Twitter users who don’t talk about themselves much tend to have more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: July 2010 &#124; In this issue &#124; Wylie&#39;s Writing Tips</title>
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		<dc:creator>July 2010 &#124; In this issue &#124; Wylie&#39;s Writing Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TweetPsyche data on more than 60,000 Twitter users, he looked at self-reference on Twitter. He found that Twitter users who don’t talk about themselves much tend to have more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Better you than me &#124; Wylie&#39;s Writing Tips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Better you than me &#124; Wylie&#39;s Writing Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] data on more than 60,000 Twitter users, he looked at self-reference on Twitter. He found that Twitter users who don’t talk about themselves much tend to have more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] data on more than 60,000 Twitter users, he looked at self-reference on Twitter. He found that Twitter users who don’t talk about themselves much tend to have more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quality of Followers &#124; The LugIron Software Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quality of Followers &#124; The LugIron Software Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also like the notion that you get more followers if you stop talking about yourself. I especially like that there are charts, though it&#8217;s just a correlation as the commenters on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also like the notion that you get more followers if you stop talking about yourself. I especially like that there are charts, though it&#8217;s just a correlation as the commenters on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s with the Negative Remarks. : code name max</title>
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		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s with the Negative Remarks. : code name max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] series of TweetPsych based data points, this is based on analysis of over 100,000 accounts and looks at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marketing Real Estate - Making You Findable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marketing Real Estate - Making You Findable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dan Zarrella and Self Reference...&lt;/strong&gt;

On Dan Zarrella&#8217;s blog today we were looking at a new post talking about self reference and  followers. Basically, what you see in the chart below and the link to his post  is when people are on twitter or on any other social network the way to g...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dan Zarrella and Self Reference&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>On Dan Zarrella&#8217;s blog today we were looking at a new post talking about self reference and  followers. Basically, what you see in the chart below and the link to his post  is when people are on twitter or on any other social network the way to g&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey thats a wonderful tip here..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;had never realized that this could be the tip top twitter users might be using&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thnks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey thats a wonderful tip here..</p>
<p>had never realized that this could be the tip top twitter users might be using</p>
<p>thnks <img src='http://danzarrella.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carri Bugbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carri Bugbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this all depends upon the type of account you&#039;re running and why people are following you. To be truly helpful, I think this data would need to be adjusted for sentiment, though that&#039;s still a bit of voodoo.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Having ramped up and/or managed 40+ Twitter accounts in a wide variety of business categories, I have a sense of when you can get away with talking about yourself and when you can&#039;t.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anecdotally, I think that individual tweeters who are self-deprecating or talk about mishaps tend to engender support. Everyone likes an underdog and we all want to be helpful! But nobody likes a boaster.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of my biggest pet peeves is people who retweet other people’s retweets of their own tweets (for example, if I tweeted: RT @tweeter RT @CarriBugbee blah, blah, blah). I know many others who find this just as egregious, yet I still see so-called “experts” doing this to give themselves props. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For businesses, talking about deals and promotions has become a generally accepted practice, as long as these tweets are interspersed with other useful information. Many people will only follow a brand for deals or customer service (the Razorfish study released in October 2009 confirmed this), so they expect brands to talk about themselves. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@CarriBugbee&lt;br&gt;Social Profiles: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.CarriBugbee.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.CarriBugbee.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this all depends upon the type of account you&#39;re running and why people are following you. To be truly helpful, I think this data would need to be adjusted for sentiment, though that&#39;s still a bit of voodoo.</p>
<p>Having ramped up and/or managed 40+ Twitter accounts in a wide variety of business categories, I have a sense of when you can get away with talking about yourself and when you can&#39;t.</p>
<p>Anecdotally, I think that individual tweeters who are self-deprecating or talk about mishaps tend to engender support. Everyone likes an underdog and we all want to be helpful! But nobody likes a boaster.</p>
<p>One of my biggest pet peeves is people who retweet other people’s retweets of their own tweets (for example, if I tweeted: RT @tweeter RT @CarriBugbee blah, blah, blah). I know many others who find this just as egregious, yet I still see so-called “experts” doing this to give themselves props. </p>
<p>For businesses, talking about deals and promotions has become a generally accepted practice, as long as these tweets are interspersed with other useful information. Many people will only follow a brand for deals or customer service (the Razorfish study released in October 2009 confirmed this), so they expect brands to talk about themselves. </p>
<p>@CarriBugbee<br />Social Profiles: <a href="http://www.CarriBugbee.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.CarriBugbee.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: alephnaughtpix</title>
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		<dc:creator>alephnaughtpix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting, although I think you might be jumping too easily to the conclusion &quot;Want more followers? Stop talking about yourself.&quot; on the assumption that people are following or unfollowing based on what you say. However it could be the other way around- you could be talking less about yourself as a *result* of having more followers- and therefore engaging in conversation with a greater number of people. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s probably a bit of both, but it would be interesting if there was a way to determine how much is one direction, and how much the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting, although I think you might be jumping too easily to the conclusion &#8220;Want more followers? Stop talking about yourself.&#8221; on the assumption that people are following or unfollowing based on what you say. However it could be the other way around- you could be talking less about yourself as a *result* of having more followers- and therefore engaging in conversation with a greater number of people. </p>
<p>It&#39;s probably a bit of both, but it would be interesting if there was a way to determine how much is one direction, and how much the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please clarify the data? On the left-hand axis the data range from .65% to 1.3%. What does social language mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please clarify the data? On the left-hand axis the data range from .65% to 1.3%. What does social language mean?</p>
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		<title>By: lordmatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>lordmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to play with the raw data because aside from a strong trend at one end of the scale the least lines regression I&#039;m guessing would be fairly flat. I&#039;m only judging that your chart is actually a scatter plot and going best fit by eye (on a screen no less) but you&#039;re best fit doesn&#039;t look so comfortable to me. That said I&#039;m not disputing your conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d like to play with the raw data because aside from a strong trend at one end of the scale the least lines regression I&#39;m guessing would be fairly flat. I&#39;m only judging that your chart is actually a scatter plot and going best fit by eye (on a screen no less) but you&#39;re best fit doesn&#39;t look so comfortable to me. That said I&#39;m not disputing your conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Toy</title>
		<link>http://danzarrella.com/data-shows-that-self-reference-does-not-get-followers.html/comment-page-1#comment-282980</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Toy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZARELLE, there is definitely something wrong with tweetpsych.  How do you explain celebrity posts who post about themselves. &quot;i&#039;m at starbucks&quot;, &quot;i just got laid&quot;, &quot;just finished wrapping the movie&quot;, etc.  yet some of these celebrities have huge numbers of followers.  

In short, people want to know about you.  Call that self-reference.  Okay, I am guilty.  I am not afraid to give an opinion, if you don&#039;t like my opinion, at least offer a better solution.  challenge me.  if you want to drop me as a follower cause your silly ego or feelings were hurt, good bye.

Sorry, but i disagree with your findings.      </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZARELLE, there is definitely something wrong with tweetpsych.  How do you explain celebrity posts who post about themselves. &#8220;i&#8217;m at starbucks&#8221;, &#8220;i just got laid&#8221;, &#8220;just finished wrapping the movie&#8221;, etc.  yet some of these celebrities have huge numbers of followers.  </p>
<p>In short, people want to know about you.  Call that self-reference.  Okay, I am guilty.  I am not afraid to give an opinion, if you don&#8217;t like my opinion, at least offer a better solution.  challenge me.  if you want to drop me as a follower cause your silly ego or feelings were hurt, good bye.</p>
<p>Sorry, but i disagree with your findings.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Houdini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Houdini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you talk rubbish, then of course you will always loose followers, whatever it is you write about. The best selling autobiographies are about interesting people, who have interesting things to say. Farcebook, twitter, etc are no different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you talk rubbish, then of course you will always loose followers, whatever it is you write about. The best selling autobiographies are about interesting people, who have interesting things to say. Farcebook, twitter, etc are no different.</p>
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		<title>By: milian</title>
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		<dc:creator>milian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chase Brumfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chase Brumfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, Looking at your data... I&#039;m wondering something. The less followers they have doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that these accounts &quot;lost members&quot; or have low numbers because of using social language. Perhaps many of these accounts are just new accounts. I&#039;d like to see a side by side of this graph and also the age of these accounts (might not be possible) I&#039;d also be very interested to know if some of the larger accounts started out using self-reference to build a loyal following and then those members took care of the rest by word of mouth... and the account didn&#039;t need to self-reference anymore. However, I do think your post makes a very good point. There&#039;s no reason to follow someone on twitter if they&#039;re not providing something useful to you. This doesn&#039;t however mean that self-reference is a bad thing. If you&#039;re self referencing yet adding something useful to the consumer (aka humor/a coupon code/a sale) then I don&#039;t see how that could lose followers. However, if you&#039;re simply telling them what you had for lunch that day... well then obviously your not going to keep many. Any thoughts on this? P.S. I agree with the post below... always got to remember correlation is never causation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, Looking at your data&#8230; I&#8217;m wondering something. The less followers they have doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that these accounts &#8220;lost members&#8221; or have low numbers because of using social language. Perhaps many of these accounts are just new accounts. I&#8217;d like to see a side by side of this graph and also the age of these accounts (might not be possible) I&#8217;d also be very interested to know if some of the larger accounts started out using self-reference to build a loyal following and then those members took care of the rest by word of mouth&#8230; and the account didn&#8217;t need to self-reference anymore. However, I do think your post makes a very good point. There&#8217;s no reason to follow someone on twitter if they&#8217;re not providing something useful to you. This doesn&#8217;t however mean that self-reference is a bad thing. If you&#8217;re self referencing yet adding something useful to the consumer (aka humor/a coupon code/a sale) then I don&#8217;t see how that could lose followers. However, if you&#8217;re simply telling them what you had for lunch that day&#8230; well then obviously your not going to keep many. Any thoughts on this? P.S. I agree with the post below&#8230; always got to remember correlation is never causation</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Mir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Mir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. That sounds about right. Talk about yourself on facebook, I guess. Every time I mention anything about my personal life I lose followers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. That sounds about right. Talk about yourself on facebook, I guess. Every time I mention anything about my personal life I lose followers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Mir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Mir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. That sounds about right. Talk about yourself on facebook, I guess. Every time I mention anything about my personal life I lose followers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. That sounds about right. Talk about yourself on facebook, I guess. Every time I mention anything about my personal life I lose followers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Mir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Mir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. That sounds about right. Talk about yourself on facebook, I guess. Every time I mention anything about my personal life I lose followers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. That sounds about right. Talk about yourself on facebook, I guess. Every time I mention anything about my personal life I lose followers.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of being self-referential, I just posted a blog entry about &lt;a href=&quot;http://gumption.typepad.com/blog/2010/01/the-commoditization-of-twitter-followers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the commoditization of Twitter followers&lt;/a&gt;, in which I referenced a relevant study that differentiated between &quot;Meformers&quot; and &quot;Informers&quot; (and their respective median numbers of followers) ... I also include a couple of links to posts on this blog. Anyhow, I&#039;ll include the relevant excerpt from the study below:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a paper to be presented at CSCW 2010, &lt;a href=&quot;http://infolab.stanford.edu/%7Emor/research/naamanCSCW10.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is it Really About Me? Message Content in Social Awareness Streams&lt;/a&gt;, Mor Naaman (@informor) and his colleagues analyzed the tweetstreams of 350 randomly selected users, and distinguish between &lt;i&gt;Meformers&lt;/i&gt; - Twitter users who tend to share information about themselves, e.g., &quot;tired and upset&quot; - and &lt;i&gt;Informers&lt;/i&gt; - users who share information on other people, places and things, typically including a URL - and report that Informers tend to have more friends [= followees] (Median=131) and followers (Median=112) than Meformers (Median=61, Median=42). I do not believe they included any celebrities in their dataset, but suspect some celebrities would represent outliers for the Meformer category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of being self-referential, I just posted a blog entry about <a href="http://gumption.typepad.com/blog/2010/01/the-commoditization-of-twitter-followers.html" rel="nofollow">the commoditization of Twitter followers</a>, in which I referenced a relevant study that differentiated between &#8220;Meformers&#8221; and &#8220;Informers&#8221; (and their respective median numbers of followers) &#8230; I also include a couple of links to posts on this blog. Anyhow, I&#39;ll include the relevant excerpt from the study below:</p>
<p>In a paper to be presented at CSCW 2010, <a href="http://infolab.stanford.edu/%7Emor/research/naamanCSCW10.pdf" rel="nofollow">Is it Really About Me? Message Content in Social Awareness Streams</a>, Mor Naaman (@informor) and his colleagues analyzed the tweetstreams of 350 randomly selected users, and distinguish between <i>Meformers</i> &#8211; Twitter users who tend to share information about themselves, e.g., &#8220;tired and upset&#8221; &#8211; and <i>Informers</i> &#8211; users who share information on other people, places and things, typically including a URL &#8211; and report that Informers tend to have more friends [= followees] (Median=131) and followers (Median=112) than Meformers (Median=61, Median=42). I do not believe they included any celebrities in their dataset, but suspect some celebrities would represent outliers for the Meformer category.</p>
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